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Brexit meets Italian bureaucracy: How to deal with the ultimate paperwork nightmare

Brexit might have become reality, but Brits shouldn't experience any changes to their rights in Europe until the end of the year. Although some Italian officials might try to tell you otherwise.

Brexit meets Italian bureaucracy: How to deal with the ultimate paperwork nightmare
Getting your paperwork done in Italy is rarely straightforward at the best of times. Photo: AFP

British citizens living in Italy keep their right to freedom of movement in the EU until the end of the year – during the so-called “transition period”.

READ ALSO: How to beat (or just survive) bureaucracy in Italy: the essential pieces of paperwork

 
That period lasts until December 31st 2020 – unless it is extended on agreement by both Brussels and London. Until then, not much changes regarding the rights of Brits living in Italy.
 
But when attempting to file paperwork with government offices recently, UK nationals living in Italy have reported running into problems with some Italian offficials providing incorrect information.
 

Photo: AFP

British readers have told The Local of problems with officials insisting they are now subject to new requirements, or asking for documents that simply don't exist.

The most alarming example we've heard so far of an official getting their facts wrong was from a reader in Calabria, who reported being (wrongly) told in early January that she was now a third-country national and had to reapply for residency under different rules.

“For some reason this guy thought we'd left the EU on January 1st and he apparently had no concept of the transition period,” she told The Local. “I was very flustered trying to correct him in Italian, and he wasn't having it. I had to go back later with an Italian friend, and luckily we spoke to a different clerk.”

Of course, the transition period means nothing has yet changed regarding residency rights.

UK citizens also still have the right to move to Italy (or any other European country) during this time, and they will still have the right to apply for the certificato di residenza, also referred to sometimes as the attestazione di residenza, until the end of December 2020, a British Embassy spokesperson has confirmed.

This will either take the form oof an attestazione di iscrizione anagrafica, for temporary residents, or the attestazione di soggiorno permanente cittadini UE, for permanent residents (more than five years residency)

These documents are given to EU nationals by the Comune. The old permesso di soggiorno document no longer exists for UK nationals.

READ ALSO: The ultimate guide to getting residency in Italy

After that, things are less clear. Brits are being advised to get their Italian residency paperwork in order and exchange their driving licenses before the end of the year.

Although some readers have encountered issues doing this, too.

“My partner just went to exchange his driving license for an Italian one and they wanted the paper part of the UK license which is of course now obsolete. At a bit of a loss as to how to tackle this,” commented one British reader in Piedmont.

Italian officials are famous for each interpreting rules in their own way, meaning that the same bureaucratic process can vary quite a bit from one town to another – and some strange requests can be made at times.

But rest assured that the paper part of the old UK license is not officially a requirement when swapping your British license for an Italian one. If you're having trouble exchanging your license, local driving schools can usually help you with the process.

READ ALSO: What Brexit means for British drivers in Italy

And, at least before the end of December 2020, there will be no changes to the rules on driving licences.

Even some routine admin tasks have now become more difficult because of Brexit confusion.

“I went to register a change of address as I have recently moved to a new apartment, and the official said I might need a different form this time because the UK is no longer in the Schengen zone,” said Louise Fallon, who has lived in Italy for six years.

“I pointed out that the UK is not and never has been part of the Schengen area, but she seemed to think that was what Brexit was. I got what I needed in the end, but it wasn't very reassuring.”

READ ALSO: How the rules for Italian citizenship changed for Brits on Brexit day

No doubt Brexit-related legislation is a confusing topic for many people. But what are you supposed to do when even the bureaucrats aren't clear about what the rules are?

“Anyone who experiences problems accessing their rights “on the ground” should refer to the Italian government's website,” said a spokesperson for campaign group British in Italy, “which makes it clear that freedom of movement rights continue during transition.”

You can find the specific section on rights under the Withdrawal Agreement here (in Italian.)

“There is also the option of using the British Embassy's consular contact form if significant problems are experienced,” British in Italy said.

“We hope that the Italian government will be communicating at regional and local level over the weeks and months to come.”

Do you have any questions about life in Italy after Brexit, or have you experienced any similar difficulties with Italian bureaucracy yourself? Get in touch and let us know.

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Member comments

  1. A bit confusing, all this. This article states: ‘Of course, the transition period means nothing has yet changed regarding residency rights.’ But The Local’s recent article ‘How the rules for Italian citizenship change for Brits on Brexit day’ [31 Jan] stated: ‘While many people may have thought the terms for Italian citizenship applications based on residency would remain the same after Brexit day, at least during the transition period, British Embassy officials have confirmed that this is not the case.’ They can’t both be true.

  2. ASL called Earlier this week to say our tessera was no longer valid post brexit and we needed an S1. Explained to her we were in a transition period and nothing changes until end of December. Asl person insists “ significa niente”. I repeated we don’t need an S1 as we have the PR, with more than 5 years residence and our tessera is on this basis, that Italy is the competent government for this and as uk citizens protected under the withdrawal agreement we can continue to receive our healthcare this year as nothing changes until next December, that the ASL has copies of our PR certificates and our tessera remains valid. She trots off to speak to her manager then comes back and confirms I am correct. Then says goodbye. No apologies no explanation… And so it begins.

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Frustration grows as UK driving licence holders in Italy wait in limbo

British nationals living in Italy are becoming increasingly concerned by the lack of news about a reciprocal driving licence agreement post-Brexit, and say the current 'catch-22' situation is adversely affecting their lives.

Frustration grows as UK driving licence holders in Italy wait in limbo

There is growing discontent among UK licence holders residing in Italy who are currently playing a waiting game on the validity of their driving licences.

Those who are driving in Italy on a UK-issued permit currently have just over six months left before their licence is no longer accepted on Italy’s roads.

READ ALSO: Driving licences: How does situation for Brits in Italy compare to rest of Europe?

That is, unless a deal is reached between the UK and Italy, or another extension period is granted.

Another extension would mark the third time the authorities have deferred making an agreement on UK driving licences in Italy.

When Britain left the EU at the end of 2020, British and Italian authorities hadn’t reached a reciprocal deal on driving licences.

However, UK licence holders living in Italy were granted a 12-month grace period in which they could continue to drive on their British licences in Italy.

With just days to go before the deadline in December 2021, those still using a UK licence were granted a reprieve when it was further extended for another 12 months until the end of 2022.

But the situation from January 1st, 2023, remains unknown.

In the remaining few months, British nationals driving in Italy who hadn’t converted their licence to an Italian one before January 1st, 2021 face the same choice again: wait and hope for an agreement or start the lengthy and costly process of taking their Italian driving test.

There is still no confirmation on reaching an agreement on driving licences. Photo by Miguel MEDINA / AFP

Many UK nationals have contacted The Local recently to express their frustration, anger and concern over the situation, explaining how the possibility of not being to drive in Italy would profoundly impact their lives.

For some, it would mean not being able to get to work, losing their independence, not being to reach supermarkets for the food shop in remote areas, or not being able to take their children to school.

And in the meantime, many readers told us it means ongoing worry and uncertainty.

Reader David (not his real name), who moved to the southern region of Puglia shortly before Brexit hit, tells us he now finds himself in a “horrible catch-22 situation”.

He summed up the feeling among many of those who contacted The Local by saying: “It is highly concerning and not at all helpful for mental or physical health in a period when we are trying to settle in to a new life in Italy.”

He points out that, for him, retaking his driving test and getting an Italian licence would also mean having to sell his car and buy one with a less powerful engine.

“I realise that if I pass the Italian driving test and obtain an Italian licence, then I will be a neopatente (new driver) with three years of serious restrictions,” he says.

READ ALSO: What you need to know about getting an Italian driving licence post-Brexit

Newly administered licences in Italy carry restrictions including on the maximum engine size of the car the holder may drive, tighter speed limits on the motorway and extra penalty points for breaking them.

“In this situation, I am honestly dis-incentivised to get the Italian licence unless there seriously is a real ‘no deal’ scenario on the table,” he says.

“Because if I get an Italian licence now – and of course I could choose now to invest a lot of time and money to get it – and then an agreement is reached to exchange licenses, then I might find myself in a worse position than if I just waited to do an exchange.”

“I am sincerely hoping for an agreement to be reached for experienced drivers with a UK licence.”

James Appleton lives in Milan and says he feels “frustrated about the situation”. Although he concedes that he lives in the city with all the convenience that implies, he is worried about having a car sitting outside his flat that he can no longer drive from January.

“The frustration now is with little over six months left of the year, advice from the authorities has continued to be quite unhelpful,” he tells us.

“We keep hearing, ‘consider your options’. I know my options: I have to start the process of taking a test, which is expensive and lengthy, and which may turn out to be unnecessary, or wait until the end of the year. Those have been my options for year and a half,” he adds.

Frustration for many British nationals still waiting on a post-Brexit driving licence agreement. Photo by ANDREAS SOLARO / AFP

“I feel very much in limbo. If it gets to November and we still haven’t heard anything, I risk having a car that I can’t drive from January as my licence may no longer be valid.

My hope would be if there’s not to be a deal, let us know so there’s time to take the test,” James says. “I don’t want to find out with a week to go, like last year.”

He points to the fact that many other non-EU countries have reciprocal driving licence agreements with Italy, so why not the UK? Meanwhile, Italy is one of only two countries in the EU still not to have made a deal on driving licences.

While he said he didn’t want to sound “entitled”, the lack of clarity was simply confusing.

READ ALSO: Q&A: Your questions answered about driving in Italy on a British licence

Like many others, he tried but didn’t manage to convert his British licence in time as he moved to Italy shortly before the Brexit deadline.

James registered as a resident in December 2020, leaving little time to begin the conversion process. He admitted it was partly his fault “for not having realised the consequences of what was going to happen”.

But “there are some people in a position where it wasn’t so straightforward to convert your licence,” he notes.

This was true for another reader, who wished to remain anonymous. She tells us that she tried to begin the conversion of her UK driving licence three times in Imperia, where she lives, but was told to “wait and see what is decided”.

“No one has taken a note of my requests and attempts so I cannot prove my attempts to get this sorted or listed,” she says.

READ ALSO: How to import your car or motorbike to Italy

In her case, it would therefore be difficult to prove that she began the conversion process before January 1st, 2021.

She also faced setbacks when trying to convert her licence in time after applying for residency before Brexit.

On being told that she needed her final ID card (carta d’identità) proving her residence, she returned to her town hall but couldn’t get the card for another seven months due to no appointments being available.

“Then I couldn’t get the licence exchanged as the person dealing with this was not at work on the day I went. I had to fly back to UK then Covid restrictions kicked in, hampering travel and by then UK was out of Europe and the Italian/UK driver’s licence issues remained unsolved,” she added.

The question on a UK-Italy driving licence agreement rolls on. Photo by FABIO MUZZI / AFP

So is there any hope that an agreement will be reached and those driving on a UK licence won’t need to sit an Italian driving test?

At this point there are no indications as to whether a decision will be reached either way. The British government continues to advise licence holders to sit their Italian driving test, while also stating that they’re working on reaching a deal.

The latest update to the driving guidance on the British government’s ‘Living in Italy’ webpage in January states:

“If you were resident in Italy before 1 January 2022 you can use your valid UK licence until 31 December 2022,” however, “you must exchange your licence for an Italian one by 31 December 2022. You will need to take a driving test (in Italian).”

The guidance then states: “The British and Italian governments continue to negotiate long-term arrangements for exchanging driving licences without needing to take a test.”

So far, so much conflicting advice, as many readers point out.

Of those who have decided to take the plunge and sit the Italian driving test, some say it’s “not as difficult as it sounds” while others report having trouble with the highly technical questions in the theory test, not to mention the fact that the test has to be taken in Italian.

If you speak French or German better than Italian, the test may be available in those languages – but not in English.

READ ALSO: Getting your Italian driving licence: the language you need to pass your test

“My question is why can’t you take your driving test in English? Adding it as an option for taking the test would help,” says Njideka Nwachukwu, who moved to Italy in 2019. She failed the theory test and has to try again, at a further cost.

Even if you find taking the test a breeze, the process is known to take around six months – if you pass everything first time – and to set you back hundreds of euros.

At the time of writing, neither Italian nor British government officials have given any indication as to if or when a deal may be reached, or an explanation of why the two countries have not yet been able to reach an agreement.

Nor has any explanation been given as to why this important aspect of life in Italy was never protected under the Withdrawal Agreement in the first place.

When contacted by The Local recently for an update on the situation, the British Embassy in Rome stated: “rest assured the Embassy continues to prioritise the issue of UK driving licence validity in Italy and we continue to engage with the Italian government on this issue.”

The Local will continue to ask for updates regarding the use of British driving licences in Italy.

Thank you to everyone who contacted The Local to tell us how they are affected by this issue, including those we couldn’t feature in this article.

Find more information on the UK government website’s Living in Italy section.

See The Local’s latest Brexit-related news updates for UK nationals in Italy here.

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